Are you thinking of leaving Virgin Media?

I am extremely pleased to say that I am no longer a customer of Virgin Media.

I present here my reasons for leaving, my experience of the process and my advice to others who have become sick and tired of what was becoming both the most overpriced and worst service imaginable, in my experience and opinion!

Why have I left them?

Multiple reasons. By the way, I have not been paid or otherwise influenced in any way by Zen to write this page.

Being a bit of a techie who runs his own mail and web server at home it's been a constant source of annoyance that Virgin Media never has and does not provide home customers with their own static IP address. This means that the customer has to use another service such as noip to make their server accessible from elsewhere, for both email and web service.

Virgin Media is one of very few ISPs who STILL do not provide IPv6 service, see the Wikipedia IPv6 article to see why this should be regarded as an essential service. In short, the entire IPv4 address pool has been exhausted for quite a while so the world is now moving to IPv6. With the lack of this service from Virgin Media, more and more web facilities are going to become unavailable to Virgin Media customers.

Their equipment was becoming ridiculously unreliable. The WiFi of the so-called superhub 2 was failing several times per hour some evenings. It was therefore totally unusable especially for streaming services such as Netflix and BBC iPlayer. Whenever I had visitors who wished to use my WiFi it was an utter embarrassment to both myself and my son. Calling Virgin Media customer services did no good. They would spin some rubbish about how I should reboot the router, which I had already done sometimes several times in one day, or that the WiFi was being interfered with by other routers in the locality. All absolute rubbish.

Then, it gets even worse for anybody who wants to do any more than just use web browsers to access Facebook and gmail or stream Netflix etc. The hub3 and hub4 prevent some of the usual, normal configuration options available on proper routers, specifically the forwarding of many ports such as port 25 which is used to provide SMTP access to mail servers. If you try, you get the ridiculous and, I think, arrogant message:-

The configured port range
cannot contain one of the
following reserved ports:
25,53,135,137,138,139,161,162,
445,1080

from the hub4 that I was sent after complaining abut the WiFi failing all of the time with the hub2. Fortunately I did not plug it into the VM cable, merely powered it up and investigated it with my laptop plugged into one of the Ethernet sockets. As far as I know, if you make the mistake of plugging a hub4 into the VM cable it will register itself with their network, then you cannot go back to the hub2. As far as I can tell the hub2 permits the forwarding of any port so prevention on the later ones seems to me to be just moronic.

I contacted VM again, told them I was rejecting the new equipment AND contract, then had one of their technicians collect and return the hub4 and TV box.

I am by no means the only dissatisfied customer/ex customer. Here is just one example of a huge collection of comments by VM customers. Virgin Media just had to go.

How to leave

If you're out of contract it should be easy. Just phone them and tell them you're leaving. Apparently they will only accept terminations by phone, presumably because you are then forced to speak to the retention department. It might take you several attempts to navigate multiple levels of phone menus and retention consultants before managing to speak to the correct person. I was very lucky and happened to manage it first time. You will then receive a confirmation email, probably titled "Disconnecting your Virgin Media services". However, there's a 30 days notice period which you will not get out of (they'll try to tell you it's for your protection in case you change your mind, more rubbish) so no matter who you're switching to give Virgin notice IMMEDIATELY when you have an install date otherwise you'll end up still paying Virgin for a month after you've finished using them.

Virgin Media WILL contact you during the 30 day notice period. I was contacted twice. The first call was from "technical assistance" because they had noticed that the superhub 2 had been disconnected for some time. I told them that this was because I was already using a different service. Bye. The second was from a guy claiming to be a "local representative" or some equivalent. Actually the retention department. Be assertive with these creatures. Do as I did, raise your voice a little and tell them I ALREADY HAVE SERVICE FROM A DIFFERENT PROVIDER. I AM LEAVING. DO NOT CALL ME AGAIN, and that should be the end of the matter. I heard no more from them

HOWEVER,
What they did next is, I think, utterly despicable. Because of the day of the month on which they had always taken my payments by direct debit, I was expecting them to be owing me money so naturally I deleted the direct debit facility with my bank. What they were actually doing was taking payment 19 days AFTER the billing date so I ended up owing them, according to themselves, the trivial sum of £23.33. Rather than simply contacting me by phone or email which would have sorted everything out immediately, this odious company referred me to a debt collection agency, Advantis Credit Ltd. In my opinion this is a misuse of a person's data so I have referred Virgin Media, by written letter, to the Information Commissioner's Office. The ICO responded, in writing, to my letter on 14th April. Whether or not they will actually take any action is unclear but I feel better for bringing the matter to their attention. The more disgruntled customers who also do so the better, I think. Anybody who wishes to complain in writing to the ICO can do so using this address:-

Information Commissioner's Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF

25th May 2022, received email from the ICO:-

"Your complaint

We have considered the issues that you have raised with us and our decision is that there is more work for the organisation to do. I have written to Virgin Media to explain that we expect them to work with you to resolve any outstanding matters.

One of the ICO's strategic goals is to increase the public's trust and confidence in how personal data is used and made available. In this case, if they have not done so already, we expect Virgin Media to fully address your complaint by telling you what they are going to do to put things right or if they believe they have met their data protection obligations by explaining how they have done so. We expect them to contact you within 30 days."

14th June 2022, received a phone call from the "Executive Office" of Virgin Media! I told the caller that all I want is a written apology for what they did to me, and assurances that they would not do this to anybody else.

I received the letter on 17th June. It did contain the magic word "apologise" so I shall now consider all dealings with the Virgin empire to be closed and I shall never have any dealings with any branch of them ever again. The letter claimed that they had sent out final bills on three occasions, none of which I ever received, so I conclude that in this regard they are are either liars or just incompetent.

Previous problems with the Virgin empire

This has not been my first cause for dissatisfaction with the Virgin empire. Many years ago I ended up arriving in Birmingham about six hours late for an interview due to their train breaking down, then in late 2019 they shafted me by supplying a lousy replacement SIM card which didn't work with my phone. That ended up costing me hundreds of pounds in lost earnings because I needed a working phone for the (casual, zero hours contract) job I was doing at the time. Of course it's never their fault, in this case insulting my intelligence by claiming that it was my Motorola handset that was incompatible with the SIM card then trying to sell me a cheap and nasty Chinese handset from a manufacturer widely suspected of including illegal spyware in their networking equipment. After moving to Tesco Mobile and stopping the direct debit, the pathetic idiots then sent out, by post, an invoice for 22 pence! Inspired by the famous Letter of Complaint to NTL, I wrote a "Dear Cretins" letter of my own to Virgin Mobile, with the 22 pence in coins taped to the bottom of the sheet. Some months later I received email stating that the account was now cleared and closed.

The good news!

Fortunately, a couple of months before I started to get sick of the dreadful Virgin Media standard of service, I was extremely lucky that Openreach had installed fibre optic cabling in my neighbourhood.

Alternatives to Virgin Media
Choosing a new ISP

If you're leaving, it's because you want something better, right? My personal experience suggests that the best of anything never gets advertised because they just don't need to waste money on advertising! Word of mouth from satisfied customers to potential new customers brings in all the new business they need. Same with ISPs - ignore all the fancy and in many cases stupid TV advertising aimed at the gullible and go with recommendations from those who actually know what they are talking about. It would be well worthwhile seeking out a local Linux Users Group just to ask this question! They are the experts in computers and computer networks and their advice is free.

I inquired of my friends in the local Linux Users Group what I should do. The recommendation I have gone with is to join Zen Internet. On the very same day that I phoned Zen and booked them to install optical fibre to my home, I received email messages containing details of my fixed IPv4 address plus the ID and passcode required to use PPPoE to connect to their network. Zen do provide a router but they don't care at all if the customer prefers to use a different router of their own choice. I find that their basic 100Mbps service is perfectly adequate for all of my video streaming requirements etc. I am using routers sourced from an eBay seller, which have been flashed by the vendor with the far superior OpenWRT firmware. The WiFi with each of the routers I now own (a Xiaomi AC2350 and a TP-Link Archer C7) is rock solid. It never, ever fails.

An email request to Zen gets IPv6 service switched on next day. I've been using their service for several months now and I cannot praise them too highly. Everything is now operating as it should, with DNS records pointing directly at my home server so that both email and web server are working faultlessly with my domain name.

TV and landline phone

After paying £144 for a new freeview TV antenna and £65 for a VoIP Telephone Adapter, a Cisco ATA191 which plugs into the Ethernet and provides two old fashioned analogue phone lines I'm now saving over £60 each month. WIN! WIN!

A VOIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol) service provider is needed for the landline phone connection to work. I chose to use SIPgate. The basic package is a prepay service with which you pay only for the phone calls you make at 1p per minute for other land lines. Pick your desired local code and a choice of numbers. Other call packages are available, UK, EU etc. The ATA191 is easy to get working over IPv4 but a little messing around with your firewall is required to get it to work with IPv6. It appears to be necessary to open the firewall to allow 2001:ab7::/32 from SIPgate, otherwise the phone won't ring for incoming calls. I found the tip here. This is easy to do with OpenWRT.

Finally...

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